Whereas the Hillsborough disaster is a source of righteous grievance, Heysel provokes only shame. well done though, i never usually go near these forums, even lfc ones as they are, bar a minority such as myself who GOES to games, full of mouthy, no nothings who want to be 'real 'fans' but are in reality, billy no mates who live in a virtual fantasy world, where, and you are a typical example, you can create a persona that makes you out to be something you really can only jerk off about. Liverpool is one of English soccers oldest teams, and over the years they have accumulated a number of rivalries. Liverpools ban, at first indefinite, was eventually set at 10 years and then later reduced to six. It's irrelevant though, and here is what the Liverpool fans feel (this is what the Juve supporters are turning their back too.) But now, Duckenfield was not guilty of the criminal offence of gross negligence manslaughter, and the police accusations against the victims had been reinstated. What Was John Lennon Airport Called Before? The fans were largely exonerated as at worse being an exacerbating factor. He admitted to calling Evra negro but claimed that he meant it in a friendly way. from the safey and comfort of their homes, it's bigger and braver to do it via a keyboard.most don't know any history about the club, but google can cure that now and make them look even more of a 'fan'..mufc is a great club, shame the modern world enables turgid scum to attach themselves to it's name. I saw first hand the impact of Heysel that terrible night I was taken to the hospital with the dead and the dying. Why Did Unesco Drop Liverpool From Its Heritage List? As a result of the events that unfolded on April 15, 1989, at the FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest, 97 children, women and men lost their lives. http://media.photobucket.com/image/Amicizia%20liverpool/avred/500px-Amicizia.jpg "Amicizia" or Friendship in Italian. Dog fighting is illegal in every U.S. state and in many countries around the world (Britain, where it was quite popular, banned it as far back as the 1830s), although enforcement in other countries is frequently lax or nonexistent. [Many Everton fans] feel that in some way they are the real victims of that dreadful day because their title-winning team could not play in the European Cup the next season. Is Liverpool Cathedral Used In Peaky Blinders? John Smith had told reporters that he believed the trouble to be the fault of Chelsea fans it was nonsense, clutching at straws. The tragedy was largely attributed to mistakes made by the police. They had that option but they compromised. Theyll print anything to sell a story, whether its true or not, and thats something were all a victim of. IT HAS BEEN SUNG FOR OVER A YEAR YOU STUPID FUCK. Thompson confessed that he had attacked Georgiev, along with Shields and Wilson, and received a six-month suspended sentence. Following this weeks developments and release of revelatory information on the Hillsborough tragedy, MUST wishes to make it absolutely clear that just as we condemn chants mocking the Munich Air Disaster we also condemn any chants relating to Hillsborough or indeed any other human tragedy. How Many Times Has Liverpool Won The League Cup? Liverpool Football Club remembers the 97 supporters who died in the Hillsborough tragedy, on the 33rd anniversary of the disaster. Let us know. However, an investigation did concede that some culpability lay with the authorities, and the crumbling state of the Heysel stadium. Who else? I will be shocked if this is allowed here. What Happens When A Place Is Declared A World Heritage Site? How do you let go of someone who doesnt want you. 10-year-oldWho were the victims of the Hillsborough Disaster? NO LESS BY THE FACT THAT LIVERSTOOL HAD CHOSEN TO STAND BY A RACIST. The picture above shows a Munich 58 banner displayed by the Liverpool fans in the Heysel Stadium before the tragic events unfolded and obviously before Hillsborough too. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. answer my question.you can't ( letter changed to equip the question, you may notice). A service was held in Liverpool the following week and I can honestly say I dont remember anything from it. Of course we have some idiots who chant about Hillsborough and they bring shame on the club, but to suggest that 1000s of us are chanting about Hillsborough every game, and have been doing for almost a year, is beyond ridiculous. What did The Sun say about Liverpool fans? Whenever as a group of players we get together, we never, ever mention Heysel. Thirty-nine peoplemostly Italians and Juventus fanswere killed and 600 were injured in the confrontation.Heysel Stadium disaster. Before the match, we were in the dressing room when we heard the wall collapse. that is as thick as saying man utd officials are guilty of the manslaughter of their own players because they didn't insist on having their players removed from the aircraft after the second attempt, knowing the conditions were diabolical. The fact that the victims' families had to wait 23 years for justice was abhorrent, proof that the British establishment viewed Liverpudlians in a cruelly pejorative fashion, best summed up in Boris Johnson's 2004 article which claimed Liverpool was a self-pity city, hooked on grief and welfare. That hundreds of Liverpool fans sent death threats and demanded tour cancellations from Alan Davies when he mentioned the aforementioned issue. The private ceremony at Anfield this morning. That hundreds of Liverpool fans sent death threats and demanded tour cancellations from Alan Davies when he mentioned the aforementioned issue. But how can you want to play a game of football in a stadium where people had just died? What was going through our minds? He should have been here in Lithuania cheering us on but instead hes locked up. The trend is indicative of the mentality that Jrgen Klopp has instilled in not only the players but also the fans. Liverpool players, staff and supporters have observed a minute's silence to remember fans who lost their lives in the Hillsborough disaster. Who were the Liverpool fans jailed Heysel? When we got the news that hed not only be found guilty for a crime he didnt commit but actually been sentenced to 15 years, our hearts sank. But I can't help but notice that all those Liverpool fans that are in no way connected to either disaster keep preaching the injustice of hillsborough, yet completely neglect to mention heysel, where 39 Italian fans died and 600 were injured after trying to escape assault from violent Liverpool fans. A wall collapsed, that was all. I have said it and heard it countless times. Bruce Grobbelaar. This created a buildup of fans trying to get in. Well i can understand this point of view very clearly since i know how the media work.But what about a chant your fans were singing against Everton at Goodison park?The one that says "If it wasn't for the scousers we could stand"? It concluded that blame should rest solely with the Liverpool fans. After the game, Rome erupted in rage, and the bloody events around the Olympic Stadium left everyone who was there and those who had only heard talk of what happened determined not to suffer again at the hands of Italian ultras. I stayed overnight and in the morning Roy Evans came back to try and sneak me out but to no avail, not least as the only clothing he had to hand was a Liverpool tracksuit turned inside out. Liverpool fans will (rightly?) well as you have answered your own question, that you believe lfc fans killed themselves, why are you asking me? Hillsborough was a horrific and wholly avoidable tragedy, precipitated by the popular belief that football fans were animals who should be herded into pens like pigs or sheep. I cant categorically say there arent some United fans, that idiotic minority, that may sing the song with thoughts of Hillsborough in mind. yes, a bit stupid of you to even consider the remark you made., but why am i surprised. Why Do Liverpool And Celtic Have The Same Song? Three Bulgarians witnesses, as well as Georgiev, all identified Shields in a line-up as the man who dropped the slab on Georgievs head after he had been punched and fallen to the floor. The Daily Express went with the headline: Manchester United fans mock Hillsborough tragedy. Why do Liverpool fans not mention Heysel? The eight players who died at Munich werent at fault for the plane crashing, what difference did that make to Liverpool fans laughing at their deaths? The stadium and policing were blamed. Probably the most common sense article I've read yet. Juventus had agreed to play, and if we didnt play the situation could have gone even further out of control. There are two very obvious reasons for this widespread reluctance to talk about Heysel. Thirty-nine peoplemostly Italians and Juventus fanswere killed and 600 were injured in the confrontation. 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Yet surely, after 30 years, it's time for English football to face up to this shame. The anger was palpable. Why do Liverpool's fans sing about the 96, but not about the 39? Their biggest beef lies with regional foe Manchester United, though they also have long standing rivalries with Premier League mates Everton, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City, and Arsenal. Any attempt to suggest otherwise is irresponsible given the forthcoming fixture between the clubs and furthermore risks needlessly upsetting the bereaved families further at a time when they are understandably trying to find closure. I was 6, so I don't feel responsible for it. My stepfather had arrived late with his mate into the VIP entrance before the game and they were met with black bodybags everywhere. Why Do Liverpool Fans Not Mention Heysel? Implement, optimize, or repair Salesforce.com for you business. i trust my many observations are true of you, you have not denied anythinghope you get 'sky go' working in time for sunday, while us, REAL, PROPER, MATCH ATENDEES( non- shirt wearing, i don't have to try to convince myself, im the real deal), enjoy the atmosphere, which i trust, the genuine mufc fans will positively contribute to.and you and your like, can then, after the game finishes, quickly log on to this and other sites, with your trousers round your ankles and type big bad,brave insults aimed at the naughty scousers. but i have to realise, the majority on here (and others) just pay lip service to 'supporting' mufc and other clubs. In addition, more than 760 were injured. The oldest was 67-year-old Gerard Baron, a retired postal worker. The thing is, on the drive up to the stadium the traffic was quite heavy, so we were stuck in it for a while and we spotted this grassy area where we saw Liverpool and Juventus fans having an impromptu game of football against each other. It wasn't their fault that those fans died, it was the fault of the stadium. As numbers outside the stadium continued to build up after kickoff, the police dispersed them with tear gas and forced them away from the stadium.. Whilst on the floor, he was kicked by two other men, who were identified by the witnesses as Wilson and Thompson. A witness claimed he heard the three men who had attacked Georgiev say theywere staying at this hotel and this is where the police seized their passports the following morning. I was. Im writing this because no media outlet has attempted to explain the reasons behind the chant, instead parcelling it off as sick and disrespectful, suggesting that Uniteds fanbase is full to the brim with people who would mock the deaths of 96 innocent people, and have been belting that song out every single week with the thoughts of those that died at Hillsborough on our mind. That doesnt clear anybody of any responsibility for what happened, but it showed it was a move from UEFA that was almost asking for trouble. I want to dedicate that goal to Michael Shields and all his family who are suffering so badly right now. i am sure your mummy and 'daddy' or mummy's special friend , as you are probably told, wouldn't want you going to games on your own. Of that there is no doubt. UEFA, the organiser of the event, the owners of Heysel Stadium and the Belgian police were investigated for culpability. /s. A human disaster which occurs during religious pilgrimages or professional sporting and music events, when crowds fall prey to mass panic due to an explosion, fire or other trigger event which causes a stampede. Why do Liverpool fans not mention Heysel? physically, not in your warped imagination. For Heysel to return to the popular consciousness, and receive its own nationwide day of remembrance, observed by the entire English football family. Did the sun ever Apologise for Hillsborough? Did Liverpool get all English clubs banned from Europe? now mummy's boy, who probably still lives at home (whichever traveller site that may be), be a good boy and do as you are asked. Now Dalglish refuses to close the door on the issue. Why do the club's fans sing about the 96, but not about the 39? What Are The 5 Principles Of Palliative Care? There were inquiries into Hillsborough. Juve have received nothing but sincere regret and condolences from us and will continue to, regardless of how they're received. It is just that everyone in the police wanted to ignore the report and the media didn't like it because they wanted to continue the 'fans are evil' message. Are Liverpool fans to blame for Hillsborough? Several top officials, police captain Johan Mahieu, and 14 Liverpool fans convicted of manslaughter. it is very easy to be a hard man and come across all big and brash with their clueless views. Hillsborough disaster, incident in which a crush of football (soccer) fans resulted in 96 deaths and hundreds of injuries during a match at Hillsborough Stadium in Sheffield, England, on April 15, 1989. Likewise, Im not going to make the same mistake of saying that every single United fan who sings that song is coming from the same state of mind as me. and tell them everything about how bad and naughty those scousers are. We were spat at and abused as we left the hospital. dear oh dear, read above, you are an fantasist in need of, that is plainly obvious. Why aren't supporters of other clubs queuing up to lay electronic tributes online? Michael Shields was arrested and later found guilty of attempting to kill a Bulgarian man with a paving slab whilst celebrating Liverpool FCs European Cup win in 2005. And Juventus fans, I should have put that in the title. That song isnt mocking Hillsborough though and I imagine there were plenty of reds who sang it on Saturday who were scratching their heads when they heard thats what they were being accused of. 39 peopleThe disaster occurred before the European Cup final between Liverpool and Juventus on May 29, 1985, when events in Block Z of the stadium tragically led to the deaths of 39 people and left hundreds more injured. job opportunities in france for foreigners; what goes well with cinnamon ice cream; fastest position in football offensive i probably know more about mufc and munich than you, a supposed 'fan', who only contributes clueless bile on sites like these. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. However, when the trial began and Thompson was called to give evidence, he gave a highly contradictory and muddled account of events. So, Evertonians sing, with pathetic self-pity, Thirty-nine Italians cant be wrong. Well they werent. so, going on your brain missing logic, why didn't the people involved step forward and hold their hands up? Under pressure, he froze and failed to consider the consequences of admitting thousands of fans on to already-packed terraces, he told the jury. Unfortunately, no football club can claim to have fans who have never sung about something they shouldnt have. Liverpool fans are absolutely not blaming Jurgen Klopp, even though his methods have broken his players and he needs new ones. INBRED CUNT!!!! liverpool are great club but they have Retarted Fans and Racist palyer. In the aftermath, all English clubs were banned for five years from competing in Champions League and UEFA Cup play. It seems difficult for the modern day football fan to understand, but hooliganism in those days was sadly normal. It's incredible you could be so ignorant. allegro brisket & fajita sauce; china house shippensburg. Still feels bad. Who was the youngest victim of Hillsborough? Yes, we hate scousers, but Hillsborough was about sons, daughters, mothers and fathers, it was about people, not Liverpool FC, and if you cant differentiate between the deaths of human beings and the deaths of Liverpool fans, thinking one is worthy of ridicule and mocking, there is something very wrong with you. The blame for the incident was laid on the fans of Liverpool. It taunted Liverpool supporters, some of whom still feel that they had nothing to do with the deaths of 39 people on that May night nearly 20 years ago. How Many Private Schools Are There In Liverpool? have you found any officials from your club that have held their hands up yet? After Everton fans shot fireworks at Southamptons hotel BBC has an "interesting audio error" during Wolves vs Full time reaction from Tottenham vs Arsenal. Why do Liverpool fans boo the national anthem? Log in with your Facebook or Twitter account: always the victims, its never their fault, Sir Alex Ferguson believed his woeful handling of the Suarez case contributed to this, RoMs Manchester United 2017-18 season preview, Rashford: It was special to score in front of the Stretford End against City, Weghorst: Its fantastic to pull on the famous red shirt, Marcus Rashford takes aim at more scoring records, RoMs Manchester United 2016-17 season preview, Shaw: Derby day atmosphere was the best Ive experienced, United face Forest in the League Cup semi-final, CONFIRMED LINE-UP: Crystal Palace vs United Weghorst starts, Man Utd 2-1 Man City: Just Like The City, Rashford is Red, Casemiro: Ten Hag is obsessed with winning. The release of the Hillsborough files wont stop that. The police said exactly the same then, she said. The crushing occurred during a match at Hillsborough Stadium in Sheffield, England, on April 15, 1989. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. And they were only doing what all other English supporters were doing at that time rampaging across foreign fields and intimidating perceived enemies whenever they got the chance. Starting out in the 1970s when English football (and particularly Liverpool) matches were aired on Norwegian television, the clubs fanbase in the country has grown in number and in fervour. For a week or so afterwards, we were all in a complete daze. And the point about the report of the Hillsborough disaster was that Liverpool fans were absolutely not to blame. It was part of the culture, so the sight of violence was nothing new. why do liverpool fans never mention heyselalgal balls photosynthesis experiment bbc bitesize. I am now being told by the papers that when Ive sung that song for months, what I have actually been singing about is Hillsborough. 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